To fully understand what is in it for each person,

• First you must go back to the people.
  • Lifestyle Choice <---> Some hybrid in-between <---> Professional Model
    (Each of these can have various levels of experience in different roles)
  • The Model -- The Photographer -- The Rigger & Artist
    
• Second, you must consider what people are getting, not getting, and worth. If you notice each of the bullet points above have been broken into three's. Each of these can also have different levels of experience that may factor in. In fact, each of these may have different roles with there own level of experience.
• Third, you must consider what kind of project is it. While any of these projects can be as edgy or tame as you want, I tend to push the envelope in longer shoots or multiple shoots. I may have seen some of your work, but without working with you before, I can not fully build trust or knowledge to fully utilize the potential and express the art form through you fully.
• Fourth, expectations.... Obviously depending on where you lay in the experience, you can get in and out quicker, but with everything, there must be time for a discussion, setting up, and getting into character. Even the best models, photographers, riggers, and artist can not jump in upon arrival, and begin immediately.

• Time (Value)
• Image & Release (Value)
• Name/image draw & recognition (Value)
• Experience

• Time (Value)
• Experience & Eye (Value)
• Name & Recognition (Value)

• Time (Value)
• Experience, vision, safety (Value)
• Name & Recognition (

Product:

Art not Big business.... as a starving artist, my heart and soul goes into each project. I am not a big business making a bunch of money. I don't do thousands of dollars in sales. In fact, while I have stuff for sale, very little if any money is ever made. Most goes back into the product. Eventually I would love to have a gallery opening.

The Fringe... I tend to put forth more alternative works. How edgy I get depends, but while the more out there is more specialized, that does not mean there is more payment. There is less demand the more alternative we get, and there is always a lifestyle person who's always ready to pickup and show off there lifestyle.

You and Me... Experience, output, portfolio, etc.

I usually like to be available by the time doors open. This allows me to discuss the night in person at the venue. It allows any last minute set changes, and allows you time to get ready and mingle.

I generally do a couple of on display/stage sets early followed by a break and second set later.

These generally depending on the venue, people, and other acts, I like start the night, set the mood, and let others take over for a bit, then offer some mid-night relief between other acts.

The live performances are often playing on stage, showing off, doing a few semi planned sets but playing off the crowd, mood and feel of the night.

Being a public, semi-public, or private audience, may depend on what's done, but in general, being live, it may have a tamer feel because we don't want to scare off the audience when they have not come to "our event"

Generally I say to expect a 30 minute +/- break in the middle

I generally set aside 4 hours for a two hour shoot. If you think you are good enough for a 2 hour shoot to be done in two hours, that's fine and dandy, but let me know that is your expectation, and please arrive 15 minutes early so I am not in a guessing game. After all, traffic is bad enough, and I want to make sure you get there and are ready. I do not know how long it takes for you to get warmed up, in character, and ready. Not to mention if you want to make any last minute wardrobe, makeup, or hair changes.

In a two hour over four hour shoot the quicker we start, the quicker we can finish. i.e. you might be out of there by 11:30 on a shoot starting at 9am even though I've allotted time till 1pm.

NOTE: In conclusion, just because I have set aside 4 hours to complete a 2 hour shoot does not mean its ok to arrive 2 hours or even 30 minutes late. I am sure you probably going to want an official break vs trying to power through the sets.

These tend to be a bit tamer, but working with the model, we can explore various limits. Theme's can be along the levels of Betty Page, Damsel in distress, cosplay, clothed, nude, or implied, contorted, and the setting can be public or private. Theme can vary widely from things like beauty, sensual, sexual, horror, scary movie, or generally artistic. Some shoots I dictate a specific theme, and others I leave it up to the model.

With any model, I let the model dictate what they are comfortable with and interested in. If it works with what I am wanting to do, then I am more likely to say lets do it, but in the end I am great with variety, and don't want a model that's out of the comfort or goal zone and unable to put on a good show.

I generally expect about a 10 minute break somewhere in the middle separate from the hurry up and wait time.

These are sets where I like to push the limits. These are sets that tend to push the limits of society and/or the model.

These sets are not for the feint of heart. The average person or model is not going to want to do this kind of shoot. This shoot is aimed at the person looking to explore the lifestyle, push the lifestyle.

This is also open to the person who knows they can handle a lot. This shoot pays pretty well, but only for newbies or those that can pull in the name recognition. This is not the kind of shoot that I will do a lot of cash paid sets with. Consider yourself special if you qualify

Like I said, there is not a lot of demand or money available for this kind of shoot, and that is what makes this special.

While I try to push your limits and the limits of society, we do have some pretty strict guidelines we must remain within if we want to offer them for money. That means I can do a dozen of these shoots just for personal growth, art, and exploring new frontiers.

These sets are designed to be so intense that you will probably need multiple extended breaks. I consider these sets either a full day set with only 4 hours of actual working time, or two half day sets.